Supes hear from the State of Jefferson

This photo in front of the Rood Center was posted today by “Mendocino County for State of Jefferson” Facebook page.

I listened to the State of Jefferson presentation on my computer during the workday. It was entertaining (I never knew green SOJ T-shirts could make such a fashion statement). It was at times disruptive (“Are the supes 8-5 or 24/7,” one man shouted). But the presentation was not educational or informative. The Supes adjourned the meeting without comment. I’m sure we’ll hear from the SOJ contingent again, however.

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27 thoughts on “Supes hear from the State of Jefferson”

  1. “Not educational or informative?” is your hearing failing you, Jeff? The man who shouted out also later apologized to the Board before stating some very cogent and valid concerns.

    Many on both sides of the issues stated agreement that a main issue is taxation without representation, one of the causes of the American Revolution. B.o.S Chair Ed Scofield conducted the “Informational Hearing” fairly and effectively, giving all who wished to comment the opportunity to do so.

    1. Taxation without representation? I don’t think you truly understand the history of our country or understand the US Constitution.

  2. Weldon,
    I heard his apology, but what prompted him to shout out like that in the first place? It sort of sums up the “my way or the highway” mindset of the SOJ. Also, no offense, but I found the demographics of the attendees rather one dimensional. Our family was working and our son was in school.

  3. After following this afternoon online, my take is- A Clown Car filled with angry, retired, white folk (half of which are from another county) on SSI and Medicare, complaining about same old things ……. inside their own echo chamber.

  4. And as one SOJ skeptic pointed out, an “all expenses paid” UC college education! I appreciated his grace in thanking “government” for that. I checked into SSI and will be grateful for what I will get (the “reward” for getting hit with an “alternative minimum tax” on The Coast), along with a small pension from the newspaper guild of the S.F. Chronicle from the ’80s and ’90s, no less. But the bulk of retirement will come from IRAs, 529s for kiddo’s college, etc. (i.e., personal savings). To be sure, there was a lot of anger and entitlement at the hearing, cloaked in “free speech.” And I continue to be astounded at our community’s extraordinarily high ratio of Constitutional scholars per capita. Eat your heart out Harvard Square! We are blessed.

  5. Interestingly, The Union is allowing people to read about the meeting in their on-line edition, without the usual demand for subscribing!

  6. I heard it was a thinly veiled anti tax propaganda message and not much else. Unfortunately I was unable to make it due to conflicting schedules/ appointments. I have to hand it to those anti tax people, they are always trying out new ways to get their message heard.

    US Constitution

    Section 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

    Section 8. Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.

  7. Here’s a comment from local Jesse King on this blog post from Facebook: “Delusions of the far-right. It’s purely ideological, and despite their claims they’re motivated by economics, “the State of Jefferson,” were it to pass, would be another poverty-stricken red state soaking up federal aid and coming in somewhere near the bottom of the list on everything: healthcare, employment, drugs, crime, housing, education, social equality… just like the others.”

  8. I find this all interesting that the SOJ movement doesn’t have concrete plans of what they’re ideas are but will push forward anyway. Didn’t Nancy Pelosi push for the ACA adding that she will look at it later?

  9. It is not just SOJ that has no plans, the entire right has no plans. They govern on a “just say no” basis. Whatever the democrats want to do, just say no. The right has tried to eliminate Obamacare dozens of times and never offered a plan to replace it. Their only plan is to cut government. They can’t articulate why because they don’t know why beyond some rhetorical references about “freedom.” The problem is that their policies mean corporate freedom for billionaires and economic slavery for the rest of us.

  10. Joe,
    The main problem with the right is the billionaire class has spent decades promoting a false history of the creation of the United States of America to fit their very narrow view of the role of our government. All the Tea Party people in the streets understand is their lives are not what they were promised when this right wing Trickle Down Economics experiment was started 35 years ago and they need somebody to blame other themselves.

    1. If SOJ had to rally folks from outside the county to attend the meeting, and only got that size crowd, its really not saying much. Do they have any idea how many people would show up if people who receive state aid of some kind, mostly MediCAL supplemental insurance, knew SOJ means they would loose that financial help? The crowd would be over flowing out to Hwy 49, with just locals who live in Nevada County, I guarantee it.

      SOJ is a state of mind in a small minority who fly under the radar of most people’s attention. Organize minimum wage workers who would loose the California rate and suffer the Federal rate, organize people who receive assistance from the State of California (if that is possible), organize State workers, just to name a few groups, and watch what the backlash against SOJ is.

      If SOJ wants to be taken seriously, they need to put together a much better plan than just the superficial bs they have now.

      1. “If SOJ wants to be taken seriously, they need to put together a much better plan than just the superficial bs they have now”.

        Which they will never have because this movement is directed by a bunch of republicans and tea baggers.

  11. What I found so interesting is that there was not an armed deputy posted anywhere in the chambers. When the marijuana ordinance was being discussed, the entire back wall and both doors leading into the chambers had armed deputies on call. Our supporters included one unruly guy who shouted “vote them out” after the Supes passed the cultivation ban, er…ordinance. They\ SoJ had one guy who repeatedly shouted “is this board 9 to 5 or 24/7.” All things being equal, we were treated differently and unequally.

  12. Move on… When/if marijuana becomes legalized in California you can expect less attention from the police. Until then…

  13. What % of the marijuana grown in Nevada County is medical/legal? Unfortunately there are many medical marijuana growers that are pretending.

  14. I would say that most of the recreational pot grown in Nev. Co. comes from legal medical growers. With plants averaging around 2 pounds each and six plants per script, I find it hard to believe that one person could consume 12 pounds of pot in a year. Scripts tend to be around 1 oz. a week which would be 3 1/4 pounds a year. I find it hard to believe that person could even consume that much pot in a year. So what happens to the excess? There are a lot of un/under employed folks around here trying to make ends meet. And, yes, a few “commercial” enterprises that operate under the guise of medical pot.

  15. So you are saying that legal medicinal growers are growing the majority of the illegal/recreational pot, too? Then with that said what % of the medicinal growers are also participating in a criminal endeavor? This is getting more interesting/disturbing by the minute.

  16. Jon, please educate yourself about MEDICAL marijuana. It’s been legal in CA since 1996. Do some people skirt the regulations? Of course, name me an enterprise that doesn’t have people breaking the rules (from Wall Street on down). I’m sick of patients being lumped in with illegal growers. Would you ban cars because some people drive drunk? Or ban banks because some people rob them?

    Patients in Nevada County are not allowed to grow 6 plants anymore. We are relegated to set sq. foot restrictions – and if you space your plants so they get proper air circulation, it would be hard to get 6 plants on the majority of parcels in NC under the current restrictions. Also, patients increasinly DO NOT SMOKE marijuana. They use tinctures, capsules, gels, cremes, edibles or juice raw leaves. All of these methods take a much larger amont of marijuana to make, so 12 pounds a year is not unheard of. In fact, one 35 pound child with severe epilepsy uses a pound a month to control the 300 seizures she was having weekly. I’m sure you don’t think she is abusing.

  17. Jon,
    Let me ask a bigger question, why should the use or cultivation of marijuana be criminal in any case?

    As for the medical marijuana legality. I am laminated/ card carrying member of the medicinal cannabis club. I don’t grow but I should be able to without worry of being targeted by local, state, or federal law enforcement.

    On the overall issue I am 100% for tightly regulated medical marijuana and the total decriminalization of recreational marijuana. My position has always been this position but until I actually became a patient/ user of medical cannabis extract/ oil I didn’t realize how potent it really was. The fact my instructions were based on my interpretation of the grain size of rice is scary. Some big issues are medical growers and users are very inconsistently being targeted with laws all over the spectrum makes it no industry/ companies want to get too invested in it.

  18. Why should the use or cultivation be criminal? I don’t care, it is. With logic like Patricia provides, it’s no wonder her recent attempt to get the existing ordinance changed, went nowhere. Yes.. Bruce I am a bit disturbed that it may be difficult to tell the difference between legal and illegal grows, especially when they may be both in some cases. Then to have one of the local leaders of medicinal marijuana and legalization efforts defend the practice of being both? What a mess.

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