“McClintock loses it in debate with Art Moore — need fresh blood”

art mooreBy Sierra Sentinel News of Murphys

“Sad to see, it was perfectly clear that Art Moore won the one debate that Tom McClintock would allow, at 7 AM and with HIS own rules.

“Moore blasted the elderly politician with the facts; he has NEVER voted in his own District, since he lives in Ami Bera’s district.

“Moore also embarrassed the stooped, white haired lifetime politician, when yet again McClintock insulted him for being a veteran.

“Moore not only was respected by the crowd, but anything and everything the old man tried to throw at him, he countered immediately.

“When the hour was up, McClintock was harried and frazzled. It was sad to have to see. It’s time we got some”fresh blood” in the House of Representatives was the most repeated comment after the debate.


“Anonymous said…
When a newsman asked McC who is endorsing him, he couldn’t name a single local endorsement. all were right wing tea party groups from out of the state. All the newspapers and statesmen in the area endorse Moore. McC has burned his bridges and needs to go back to LA.
October 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM

“Anonymous said…
mcclintock is burned out, old and beyond working. It’s not our fault he has a house in Elk Grove that he overpaid for.
October 17, 2014 at 12:45 PM”

Author: jeffpelline

Jeff Pelline is a veteran editor and award-winning journalist - in print and online. He is publisher of Sierra FoodWineArt magazine and its website SierraCulture.com. Jeff covered business and technology for The San Francisco Chronicle for years, was a founding editor and Editor of CNET News, and was Editor of The Union, a 145-year-old newspaper in Grass Valley. Jeff has a bachelor's degree from UC Berkeley and a master's from Northwestern University. His hobbies include sailing and trout fishing.

42 thoughts on ““McClintock loses it in debate with Art Moore — need fresh blood””

  1. Doesn’t surprise me. Everything I have heard from former Bee reporters is that he is a grade A jerk. He protects himself in bubble, which I learned first hand when he did his health care “townhall” at the Vets in 2009. I stayed after the second round and wanted to ask him about IRV, I have heard he agreed with Peter Camejo on the issue, which surprised me. I get into a conversation with some Tea Party chaps and since I was wearing a red work shirt I fit right in. I was talking about some policies that Tom definitely didn’t agree with but the Tea Party guys were nodding in agreement and getting riled up. Tom’s handler came over and asked me my business for waiting around. I told him and he said he would give him the message and it was time for me to go home while grabbing my arm. I yanked my arm free and told him I wasn’t going anywhere. This was a public forum, in a public building, with my public servant. He then called over the police and they escorted me out of the Grass Valley Vets Hall. That was one of the early events that led me to run against him 2010.

  2. When Tom was running against Doug Ose, I asked him if he knew about the Dorsey Drive intersection. He went blank. Had no idea what it was.

  3. Tom, like Don above, has a disconnect with the reality of his place in the body politic. What dog do they have in this fight. None. They represent a hateful group, ready to drag us all down with them over their warped sense of the Puritanical life they think all of us need. McClintock does not deserve Nevada County’s votes, Don doesn’t deserve the time of day—-

  4. No better news possible for the politician could overpay for his house since he got about $300K in travel per diem from the state he did not deserve from the state of California.

  5. Ben, that’s a shocking first-hand report. I knew McClintock was an economic illiterate: He gave an early-morning talk about that time to the ERC, in which he was blaming the real estate meltdown on homeowners making bad choices in mortgage loans. He said, “If you can’t afford a house, say it with me” (he said to his mostly adoring audience), ‘Don’t buy a house!'” No one said anything about the fraudulent loans and other crimes of the financial sector. Economic illiteracy is one thing, but thuggishness is another.

  6. Don,
    The funniest and saddest thing about Tom McClintock is I have never met him face to face. I have tried at that health care townhall, when he was supposed to be having other townhalls but sent his staff instead, and when I was his opponent (if you can call it that) for 9 months in a political election. Why it is funny and sad at the same time? I was one of his constituents who is fully engaged and was truly trying to meet him. Also it is really sad and pathetic since he declined to participate in 4 forums and my guess more like 6-8 forums in 2010. I bet at least another forums were attempted and they contacted his office for his participation before contacting his opponents and since he declined that didn’t even bother let us know about it. Without the incumbent it isn’t much of debate. So his bubble 7am debate with tons of strings and rules attach didn’t surprise me one bit. I have said this many times and will continue to say it. Tom McClinock is a coward and career politician who is one of the biggest hypocrites on both of these points.
    1) A person who truly believes in their convictions will have no problem debating them
    2) A person who claims they don’t believe in government has made a pretty good life for himself with a lifetime spent in government.

  7. Oops one of my sentences didn’t get finished.

    “1) A person who truly believes in their convictions will have no problem debating them in a public forum for all to hear.”

  8. To begin with, I detest Tom McClintock. He is a carpetbagging opportunist. At a recent “forum” he proudly announced that he continued to dispute the indisputable fact that our climate is changing. He is not only intellectually bankrupt but morally hollow. All that being said the fact that he may be old, tired, stooped and gray does not disqualify him from serving in public office and I resent the implication that it does. Shame on that reporter and shame on anyone who believes that it does.

  9. John, I agree in principle about the elderly references. But I have to admit — despite being elderly myself — I laughed out loud at all those conspicuous and conspicuously nasty elderly references. They were SO over the top I thought they were funny!

    Deplorable and funny.

    Of course, if it were MY candidate so mocked, I’d probably be outraged.

  10. I am with John and Don on this one….the attempt to use Mr. McClintock’s age as a case against his government service was almost comical, certainly amateurish, and completely uncalled for. Age is not a disqualifier; his bankruptcy of ideas on the other hand and lack of concern about representing his districts best interest in the face of crises are.

    1. @Steve: Exactly, he needs to be voted out of office not because he is elderly, but because he is a terrible representative for his district.

  11. What would our local right wingnuts have to write about if it wasn’t for this blog, now in its fifth year with 6,684 posts? You can read: “Where is our lefty scooper”? or “The FUE is prone to cite social media as the best local news source.” Or “Jeff Pelline has lost his noggin’.” Or “Jeff Pelline missed the mark with McClintock again.” This blog generated record traffic this week. One day it drew 3600 views. It is being shared on Facebook. The internet is changing how we communicate.

    There is enough material here for a political book, with a working title of the “The State of Jefferson.” And the material is all real. You just can’t make this stuff up, from carpetbagger McClintock’s “left wing” clerk recorder remark (or https://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2010/09/28/did-mcclintock-help-or-hinder-in-losing-broadband-effort/), to tea party “town hall” meetings with Brad Dacus, to CABPRO’s Nazi cover on Common Core or its “nonprofit” status snafu (https://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2010/10/07/cabpro-drops-mention-of-nonprofit-from-membership-letter/) to “Negro Creek” to the six-figure public pensions of Nevada County Consolidated Fire directors (or https://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2013/04/02/our-county-makes-the-sacramento-tv-news-again-first-a-racially-charged-vidwo-now-for-a-drug-bust-at-nu-urgh/) or the newspaper publisher who sued a grieving father despite a poorly written column where he got decked, the commentary in the “Tea Party Gazette,” or the local, vocal global warming deniers, or tea party co-founder Mark Meckler being arrested with a locked handgun at the New York airport, or the mudslinging local campaigns (Diaz vs. Pruett). This type of politics is all right here in our backyard, against the backdrop of the rest of California. It would make a good read.

    1. I’m not sure what they would have to write about. I found out True FUE FUE wants to subpoena me (give it a try) and Todd thinks Windy & I have nuts. Got a hooty hoot about that!

      1. Todd Juvinall is a hoot. This morning he writes that he as discovered the Hmong’s influence in the Central Valley while he and his “gal-pal” pressed the flesh with Doug LaMalfa and ate “tri-tip that was so tender” at a fundraiser at Doug’s government subsidized rice farm. Didn’t Todd watch “California Gold” with Huell Howser, which dedicated a whole episode to the Hmong population in our Golden State: http://www.calgold.com/calgold/Default.asp?Series=11000&Show=1034
        You can’t make this stuff up.

      2. Now I’m Fabbie, short for fabulous. Todd won’t respond to my posts here so why should I respond over there? I remember a witch hunt on the original Sierra Dragon perpetrated by Todd and or buddies.

      3. Annie,
        I’m certain Todd wishes you were his “gal-pal,” to use his words. You could go to Doug LaMalfa’s rice farm with him and enjoy the scent of an Aqua Velva man.

      4. Jeff, That was so funny! Maybe that’s why everyone around him swoons (his words) – too much Aqua Velva.

      5. Jeff, I think the Truly FUE FUE is the Aqua Velva man. FUE FUE. Aqua Velva. But since he thinks I’m you it was nice of him to comment about having a pair. As for me, I’ve always heard the expressions “rack” or “set” when directed this way. I guess he and Swooney Todd have something to talk about after all, making fannies out of themselves.

      6. Ha! Others have told me they think it’s “Aqua Velva” man, Jeff A., or a “collaboration,” among others. I have no idea, but it’s true juvenile. To each his own, but to my knowledge, I have not endorsed Jim Firth or Terry Lamphier. I hope that whoever wins that GV can build bridges with the rest of the county. Still some real nasty political operatives in GV politics and Todd is certainly a vestige of that. I don’t see that in Truckee, Auburn or Nevada City. If people have opinions, they express them with a signed name. It’s cyber bullying, to be sure. I sometimes wonder if these guys pulled wings off of butterflies when they were kids. Lots of pent-up anger and aggression.

  12. This is a hoot! I’m sitting here looking out the window at an Art Moore for Congress sign in the front yard and reading a comment from Barry Pruett that I have “hyper leftwing beliefs.”

  13. Russ Steele claims social media “is a waste of time” but he has a Facebook page of his own. And get this: “Bill Tozer” (a regular contributor to the right wing nut blogs) posted a link to Russ’ page: “Environmentalists find few victories this year in Sacramento.” On Bill’s page it reads: “If you know Bill, send HER a message”? So “Bill Tozer” is a “her”? You can’t make this stuff up in the “State of Jefferson.” (Russ has “liked” both the Facebook page for the “State of Jefferson” in Nevada and Placer Counties). No wonder he can’t get straight news!
    Here’s a link to a few images on “Bill Tozer’s” Facebook page:

  14. And more from the rightwing nut Facebook pages. This is from Todd Juvinall’s, badgering the people at “Kodak Moments.” ROFLOL
    “Todd Juvinall‎ to Kodak Moments:
    “I see you are no longer supporting the Easy Share software. What am I to do with all my pictures in the libraries of Easy share? I upgraded to Windows 8 and you have left me out to dry. Shame on you. Please explain how we bring our pictures into our computers and what programs will do that.”

    I guess Todd didn’t get the memo:
    “Eastman Kodak. For nearly a century, no company commercialized the camera as successfully as Kodak, whose breakthroughs included the Brownie camera in 1900, Kodachrome color film, the handheld movie camera, and the easy-load Instamatic camera. But Kodak’s storied run began to end with the advent of digital photography and all the printers, software, file sharing, and third-party apps that Kodak has mostly missed out on. Since the late 1980s, Kodak has tried to expand into pharmaceuticals, memory chips, healthcare imaging, document management, and many other fields, but the magic has never returned. Its stock price is now about 96 percent below the peak it hit in 1997.”
    10 Companies that lost their Edge

  15. If you ever wonder what it was like to work at The Union, here’s a headline that has been on the front door of the newspaper’s website all weekend: “Police blotter: Calelr concerned about Ebola” What is a “calelr”?

  16. I almost posted on Todd’s web site this morning, then found this little ditty that really says it all about Todd, Fish, Bill, Walt, Greg, George, Russ, and sadly sometimes Barry. (Barry why do you enable them, you are smarter than that.) They are the dispossessed because they speak, and what comes out of their mouths, every single day, proves their worth. Some day, one of them will say something worthwhile and no one will notice.

    1. No, that’s Pruett’s MO. He’s a nasty guy politically who tosses around misinformation and lies on a whim. Who can forget his baseless attack on Sierra Business Council in 2010. Total bull****.

      But that was turned around to an accurate report of CABPRO’s “nonprofit” status. ROFLOL.
      At the time, Pruett’s defense of CABPRO turned out to be wrong too.

      The other day Pruett said it was “likely” he would run again for a public office despite losing every precinct against Greg Diaz for clerk-recorder. Bring it on Barry!

      1. Yeah, I loved the point that the big mouthed “Founder” of CABPRO, and two of their previous board members and bloggers, did not know they were misrepresenting themselves to their membership and the community.

    2. Hey Steve, thanks especially for the image of the gibbon wanking while online, which (now that I accept the fact that I can never un-see it) will forevermore remain for me the iconic image of online haters. Wankers all.

  17. These are the jerks (complete with terms like “screw the pooch”) that comment anonymously on Juvinall’s blog:
    “AnonymousOctober 20, 2014 at 12:25 PM
    The FUE’s close buddy Diaz seems to be screwing the pooch once again. FUE bot never says one thing bad about Diaz. “Middle of the road” FUE is the biggest hypocrite in Nevada County by all measures: http://yubanet.com/regional/Nevada-County-s-sample-ballot-booklets-They-re-in-the-mail.php#.VEVhUtEtDIU

    There is no story here if you read it. The law was followed. Angry, foul mouthed people.

  18. “The Sample Ballot Booklets and Official Ballots were both mailed on October 14, 2014. Per Election Code 13303 Sample Ballot Booklets shall be mailed not more than 40 nor less than 21 days before the election. Our printer, ProVote Solutions, is working with the local post offices to locate the Sample Ballot Booklets. A Sample Ballot Lookup is available online on our home page or this direct link http://reports.nevcounty.net/ELWebBallots/rdPage.aspx for people to view their booklets.

    The Elections Office is committed to ensuring that every voter is given the opportunity to exercise their right to participate in the democratic process.”

  19. Tea party activist Barry Pruett continues to grind his axes against Greg Diaz, years later. Barry lost to Greg in every precinct when he ran for clerk-recorder. He still can’t accept that. The issue was simple: he was unqualified for the post. Barry’s resume is here: https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=174344735&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=iWzt&locale=en_US&srchid=136229041413864878689&srchindex=1&srchtotal=4&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A136229041413864878689%2CVSRPtargetId%3A174344735%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary

    Diaz’ resume is here: http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/recorder/Pages/about.aspx
    He is experienced in the Elections Office.

    Pruett tried to unseat Diaz with “who you know,” not “what you know” politics, including an endorsement from Tom McClintock, who employed his wife. He was nasty too, pitting “San Francisco values” against what he called “Nevada County values.” But he lost hands down.

    He was simply too inexperienced. Experience counts, even with the “good old boy” politics of western Nevada County.

    The Elections Office has been perfectly transparent about what held up the ballot process: A lawsuit challenging the language of Measure S.

    Here’s the latest response from the Elections Office, emailed to the media (and this blog, which also is considered media):

    “The Sample Ballot Booklets and Official Ballots were both mailed on October 14, 2014. Per Election Code 13303 Sample Ballot Booklets shall be mailed not more than 40 nor less than 21 days before the election. Our printer, ProVote Solutions, is working with the local post offices to locate the Sample Ballot Booklets. A Sample Ballot Lookup is available online on our home page or this direct link http://reports.nevcounty.net/ELWebBallots/rdPage.aspx for people to view their booklets.

    The Elections Office is committed to ensuring that every voter is given the opportunity to exercise their right to participate in the democratic process.”

    And here’s Pruett’s rant on the sympathetic hard-right blogs:

    “Barry Pruett / October 20, 2014
    I am pretty impressed with Yubanet getting to the bottom of facts in connection with the recent failures of Greg Diaz and distributing them in an unbiased manner. Diaz is even getting criticism from the left now. That said, Pelline demonstrates his inability to be objective and further discredits himself by continually supporting Diaz no matter what. Today, I received three separate communications at my law office from candidates or election coordinators of completely separate and unrelated offices. I could not believe the diversity of these folks and how livid these folks were. My answer was the same as always…this is what we were talking about for four years. I personally do not care who wins what…but we must expect that the process is fair for everyone. That is clearly not happening now.”

    Barry, I’d urge you to put down your keyboard after dark. As for Greg Diaz, we’re lucky to have somebody with his level of experience. Pruett is turning to activist, personal, petty politics. This year, Pruett begged somebody to run against Diaz, writing “will somebody please run against this guy” on his Facebook page. But nobody did, including Barry.

    I hope Greg runs again, and I hope Pruett runs against him. Let the voters decide.

    My hunch is that Pruett doesn’t have the courage to run against Diaz, because he knows he’ll lose — based on merit. Ouch! We need to support people with EXPERIENCE in our community, not people who play games to score political points.

    As for Pruett’s ongoing attacks on me, I am EXPERIENCED too. Here’s my resume and endorsements: https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=13622904&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=CWJU&locale=en_US&srchid=136229041413865866085&srchindex=1&srchtotal=2&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A136229041413865866085%2CVSRPtargetId%3A13622904%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary

    And guess what, my business is thriving.

    Grow up Barry. You sound like the “world’s biggest loser.”

    1. Hey Barry Pruett,
      Check this out from YubaNet: “October 21, 2014 at 9:44 AM

      The mystery of the seven missing pallets of sample ballot booklets has been solved. The pallets have been located and are now at the Grass Valley and Nevada City post offices. Today at 9:01 am, the Elections Office got word from the Nevada City post office the pallets had arrived and distribution will start today. Shortly thereafter, the Grass Valley post office confirmed they had received the pallets as well.

      Voters can expect to receive their sample ballot booklets between today and Thursday. “

  20. Now that I’ve outed him, I need to call “fish” (AKA David Larsen of Carmichael) and confirm whether he’s one of those paid political commentators. The California Fair Practices Commission requires disclosure now. Little else could explain such vigilance from an out-of-town resident on the local hard right blogs. Remember John Stoos?

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